Comments on: Deterrence http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/ la vie existe grace aux choix Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:52:49 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jason wong http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39520 jason wong Mon, 19 May 2008 08:52:45 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39520 Malaysia's politics is just entering a new era. Tun M quits UMNO. This breaks the mental barrier for a fraction of UMNO to form a new party. If this group get 31 or more MP, then it can overtake Keadilan position. It can form a new coalition of DAP, PAS, MCA and east malaysia's MP. The leader of this group will become the new PM. It is wise for Keadilan or Dato Anwar not to move prematurely to form a coalition that is not stable. As there will be a handful of UMNO leaders justing waiting at the wing and offer a deal that your partners can't refuse and take over your coalition. It is nice just let Pak Lah a little more time to realize his time is up. And then give Dato Najib the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he will perform poorly then Keadilan will have moral high ground to move. Malaysia’s politics is just entering a new era. Tun M quits UMNO. This breaks the mental barrier for a fraction of UMNO to form a new party. If this group get 31 or more MP, then it can overtake Keadilan position. It can form a new coalition of DAP, PAS, MCA and east malaysia’s MP. The leader of this group will become the new PM. It is wise for Keadilan or Dato Anwar not to move prematurely to form a coalition that is not stable. As there will be a handful of UMNO leaders justing waiting at the wing and offer a deal that your partners can’t refuse and take over your coalition. It is nice just let Pak Lah a little more time to realize his time is up. And then give Dato Najib the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he will perform poorly then Keadilan will have moral high ground to move.

]]> By: Sivin Kit’s Garden » Random Links 250 ("National Service" Edition) http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39496 Sivin Kit’s Garden » Random Links 250 ("National Service" Edition) Sun, 18 May 2008 16:39:18 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39496 [...] Deterrence  [...] [...] Deterrence  [...]

]]> By: Abdul Jalil Ashaari http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39486 Abdul Jalil Ashaari Sun, 18 May 2008 15:28:04 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39486 The government is actually wasting the people's money by conducting the NS. What can the boys and girls learn from a 3 month stint. Singapore has better and more solid objective when they started-off their NS. Their's is a question of survival. Singapore is flank by Malaysia and Indonesia. With such a small population it is difficult to survive any kind of initial military attack by its neighbors. She just cannot depend on her armed forces alone under such attack. Thus the imperative military training for the citizens over a period of at least 1 1/2 years - a time period just enough to make a person an able soldier to defend his/her country in times of unfriendly confrontation. Singapore can afford such military training because of her strong economy and the inevitable question of survival. The length training is just sufficient to achieve her main objectives. Malaysia cannot afford to conduct the NS on a similar length of time simply because she cannot afford the massive expenses incurred. But just to follow suit and to show the neighbor that Malaysia is also preparing her youth for such eventuality, the NS is conducted for the sake of conducting. Whether or not it is able to achieve the objective just like her neighbor is yet another issue. With the NS conducted haphazardly, we see that certain group of people are able to pluck good profit from the project. Compare our NS giving training to fresh school leavers, where many of them do not even know what the training is all about, are merely enjoying or suffering from the training. Look at our instructors - are they really and fully qualified? Are they the well-disciplined group? Most people thought the the NS would benefit the fresh youth. Then there was the shocking news about a female participant being raped. And this happened in the early batch. Who was the rapist? Then came the news about the death of another participant. Parents became worried and some blame the NS organizers as being irresponsible culprits for the cause of the death and whatever misdeeds they had caused. Let's sincerely ask ourselves, does the NS really benefited the youth? Have they become good citizens. Can they be of any help, like those Singaporeans who have undergone a much longer NS, in times of war? Let's be realistic about it. Then why waste the people's money? The government is actually wasting the people’s money by conducting the NS. What can the boys and girls learn from a 3 month stint.

Singapore has better and more solid objective when they started-off their NS. Their’s is a question of survival. Singapore is flank by Malaysia and Indonesia. With such a small population it is difficult to survive any kind of initial military attack by its neighbors. She just cannot depend on her armed forces alone under such attack. Thus the imperative military training for the citizens over a period of at least 1 1/2 years – a time period just enough to make a person an able soldier to defend his/her country in times of unfriendly confrontation.

Singapore can afford such military training because of her strong economy and the inevitable question of survival. The length training is just sufficient to achieve her main objectives.

Malaysia cannot afford to conduct the NS on a similar length of time simply because she cannot afford the massive expenses incurred. But just to follow suit and to show the neighbor that Malaysia is also preparing her youth for such eventuality, the NS is conducted for the sake of conducting. Whether or not it is able to achieve the objective just like her neighbor is yet another issue.

With the NS conducted haphazardly, we see that certain group of people are able to pluck good profit from the project.

Compare our NS giving training to fresh school leavers, where many of them do not even know what the training is all about, are merely enjoying or suffering from the training. Look at our instructors – are they really and fully qualified? Are they the well-disciplined group?

Most people thought the the NS would benefit the fresh youth. Then there was the shocking news about a female participant being raped. And this happened in the early batch. Who was the rapist? Then came the news about the death of another participant. Parents became worried and some blame the NS organizers as being irresponsible culprits for the cause of the death and whatever misdeeds they had caused.

Let’s sincerely ask ourselves, does the NS really benefited the youth? Have they become good citizens. Can they be of any help, like those Singaporeans who have undergone a much longer NS, in times of war? Let’s be realistic about it. Then why waste the people’s money?

]]> By: Samuel Goh Kim Eng http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39482 Samuel Goh Kim Eng Sun, 18 May 2008 11:25:13 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39482 Even when such a high price has been paid We still haven't willingly fully learn What else can be done beyond what has been said Will be what concerned parents dearly yearn (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 180508 http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com Sun. 18th May 2008. Even when such a high price has been paid
We still haven’t willingly fully learn
What else can be done beyond what has been said
Will be what concerned parents dearly yearn

(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 180508
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sun. 18th May 2008.

]]> By: Anak Malaysia http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39472 Anak Malaysia Sun, 18 May 2008 09:21:51 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39472 The Minister of Defense and DPM belongs to the midset of 1970's. Once I was in a taxi from Kelantan to KL and that taxi driver was very critical of being abandoned after his services in Bosnia......he felt betrayed by the system that he served. What a lot of rubbish by pumping more money into buying weapons in order to be 'heard' by the outside world. Unless the mindset is corrected, the people of east and west Malaysia will be sitting on a great divide. Also pls let the minister know that more than 50% of the Rakyat felt let down by the current government machinery in a lot of aspects of life. The Minister of Defense and DPM belongs to the midset of 1970’s. Once I was in a taxi from Kelantan to KL and that taxi driver was very critical of being abandoned after his services in Bosnia……he felt betrayed by the system that he served.
What a lot of rubbish by pumping more money into buying weapons in order to be ‘heard’ by the outside world.
Unless the mindset is corrected, the people of east and west Malaysia will be sitting on a great divide.
Also pls let the minister know that more than 50% of the Rakyat felt let down by the current government machinery in a lot of aspects of life.

]]> By: jelas.info » Najib doesn’t care if MORE children die under NS http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39466 jelas.info » Najib doesn’t care if MORE children die under NS Sun, 18 May 2008 07:51:49 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39466 [...] Video by Bert, via Tian [...] [...] Video by Bert, via Tian [...]

]]> By: Shiok Guy http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39463 Shiok Guy Sun, 18 May 2008 05:29:30 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39463 I have setup a poll at my blog for NS, so far it is 81 Against and 5 pro NS. Take a poll and vote and i will see what i can do with the poll. I also have some article on May 13, My experience , Tun Dr Ismail on NEP and Tun Dr Ismail on Malays Special Right Do contribute to the poll and read and comment on the posting. ShiokGuy http://shiokguy.blogspot.com/ I have setup a poll at my blog for NS, so far it is 81 Against and 5 pro NS. Take a poll and vote and i will see what i can do with the poll.

I also have some article on May 13, My experience , Tun Dr Ismail on NEP and Tun Dr Ismail on Malays Special Right

Do contribute to the poll and read and comment on the posting.

ShiokGuy
http://shiokguy.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Chin http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39459 Chin Sun, 18 May 2008 03:47:41 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39459 YB, Keep up the good work. You might recall the day, end of march 2003 when I met you at the PRC. You and two PKR members stays for the night and left the next day for your court case. In such a situation, you still throw an apple for me. This shows that you really care for cthers. My respect to you and may the lord buddha bless you always. Thank you. YB,
Keep up the good work. You might recall the day, end of march 2003 when I met you at the PRC. You and two PKR members stays for the night and left the next day for your court case. In such a situation, you still throw an apple for me. This shows that you really care for cthers. My respect to you and may the lord buddha bless you always. Thank you.

]]> By: hutchrun http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39454 hutchrun Sun, 18 May 2008 02:07:56 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/17/deterrence/#comment-39454 This is the man that mahathir says should be the next PM. Btw it`s good news, mahathir has found his memory: Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said he would not settle for less than his day in court so that he could defend himself against allegations he was at the centre of a judicial appointments scandal in 2001. He hoped that when investigations into the conspiracy were completed, which also involved a lawyer, a tycoon and a former minister, he would be charged. Dr Mahathir said he would then reveal what really went on behind the scenes at the time, including instances of judges lobbying him for promotions. http://nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Frontpage/2243560/Article/index_html Or he lied before the Royal Commission. On that alone there`s ground to prosecute him. This is the man that mahathir says should be the next PM.
Btw it`s good news, mahathir has found his memory:

Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said he would not settle for less than his day in court so that he could defend himself against allegations he was at the centre of a judicial appointments scandal in 2001.

He hoped that when investigations into the conspiracy were completed, which also involved a lawyer, a tycoon and a former minister, he would be charged.

Dr Mahathir said he would then reveal what really went on behind the scenes at the time, including instances of judges lobbying him for promotions.
http://nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Frontpage/2243560/Article/index_html

Or he lied before the Royal Commission. On that alone there`s ground to prosecute him.

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