Comments on: Win-win in Pedra Branca? http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/ la vie existe grace aux choix Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:27:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Tony Chew http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40206 Tony Chew Tue, 27 May 2008 04:36:06 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40206 Ref the 'win-win' claim by Rais Yatim, it goes to show how stupid our government (read UMNO) leaders are. Rather than expressing disappointment at losing out on the big one accompanied by a statement of consolation at gaining the small one, the spokesperson gives a statement that is a laughing stock for the whole world....this is the kind of mediocre and low standards across the board in every situation in Malaysia as long as those numbskull nincompoop UMNO leaders remain in govt. And they want us to be proud of them and the country !!! Ref the ‘win-win’ claim by Rais Yatim, it goes to show how stupid our government (read UMNO) leaders are. Rather than expressing disappointment at losing out on the big one accompanied by a statement of consolation at gaining the small one, the spokesperson gives a statement that is a laughing stock for the whole world….this is the kind of mediocre and low standards across the board in every situation in Malaysia as long as those numbskull nincompoop UMNO leaders remain in govt. And they want us to be proud of them and the country !!!

]]> By: Robert Teh http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40205 Robert Teh Tue, 27 May 2008 04:31:03 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40205 Losing Pulau Batu Putih is not only about losing a piece of rock, the size of a football field - now Singapore has its territorial waters extended many knots from its coastline (including airspace)!!! How could we had given up this small crop of rock back in 1952 - the State Officer who wrote that letter to "disown" Pulau Batu Putih should be put in jail (if he is still around). Never give away even a square inch of our land! Never! Otherwise we might as well start advertising our land, islands and islets for sale to the highest bidder! Losing Pulau Batu Putih is not only about losing a piece of rock, the size of a football field - now Singapore has its territorial waters extended many knots from its coastline (including airspace)!!!

How could we had given up this small crop of rock back in 1952 - the State Officer who wrote that letter to “disown” Pulau Batu Putih should be put in jail (if he is still around).

Never give away even a square inch of our land! Never! Otherwise we might as well start advertising our land, islands and islets for sale to the highest bidder!

]]> By: wewinwewin!! http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40201 wewinwewin!! Tue, 27 May 2008 02:59:56 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40201 Even the one with the brain is now a no brainer. We LOST !! KALAH, if the no brainer is like Mohd son of Mohd whose Ingerik is no good. While what is lost is lost, I hope we can learn from this mistake i.e. 1) never trust Gunny Petai; 2) never trust the current govt; 3) always keep original documents in a safe place; and 4) get competent and honest people to do important things. The way I looked at it even before the case is decided, the only way we can win is to get Lingam argue our case. Of course he must be the one who write the judgement. And lastly, he must bump into all the judges during their vacations and tag along. Even the one with the brain is now a no brainer. We LOST !! KALAH, if the no brainer is like Mohd son of Mohd whose Ingerik is no good. While what is lost is lost, I hope we can learn from this mistake i.e.
1) never trust Gunny Petai;
2) never trust the current govt;
3) always keep original documents in a safe place; and
4) get competent and honest people to do important things.

The way I looked at it even before the case is decided, the only way we can win is to get Lingam argue our case. Of course he must be the one who write the judgement. And lastly, he must bump into all the judges during their vacations and tag along.

]]> By: prussiablue http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40199 prussiablue Tue, 27 May 2008 02:34:45 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40199 What is at stake at the ICJ is a matter of national/sovereign pride, nothing more. What the point of fighting over an 'island' that is half the size of a football field? Surely anyone following this case, can see the Singaporean have a better case since they have occupied the island for a long time without any disturbance and even built a lighthouse on top of it. Malaysia should have realised our chances are slim and not try to embrass ourselves any further. PAS Johor is right to lodge a report against the govt for their inaction that causes us to lose the case. Rais Yatim should resign not for failing to win the island but for injecting false hope to the rakyat. Now our neighbour down south will not stop harping on this for quite sometime. Thanks a lot Rais!! What is at stake at the ICJ is a matter of national/sovereign pride, nothing more. What the point of fighting over an ‘island’ that is half the size of a football field? Surely anyone following this case, can see the Singaporean have a better case since they have occupied the island for a long time without any disturbance and even built a lighthouse on top of it. Malaysia should have realised our chances are slim and not try to embrass ourselves any further. PAS Johor is right to lodge a report against the govt for their inaction that causes us to lose the case.

Rais Yatim should resign not for failing to win the island but for injecting false hope to the rakyat. Now our neighbour down south will not stop harping on this for quite sometime. Thanks a lot Rais!!

]]> By: Maverick http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40195 Maverick Tue, 27 May 2008 00:47:19 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40195 Hi , our legal eagles who were in Hague are a bunch of kampung bashers who only know that justice can be bartered and bought over. The verdict could have been much better if prominent learned people like Param Cumuraswamy or Karpal Singh had been chosen to represent Malaysia. Hi ,
our legal eagles who were in Hague are a bunch of kampung bashers who only know that justice can be bartered and bought over. The verdict could have been much better if prominent learned people like Param Cumuraswamy or Karpal Singh had been chosen to represent Malaysia.

]]> By: Nirman http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40194 Nirman Tue, 27 May 2008 00:21:30 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40194 Good morning Ah Tian... Let it pass YB. The ICJ have made the decision. We must be professional. Just don't repeat the same mistake. Good morning Ah Tian…

Let it pass YB. The ICJ have made the decision. We must be professional. Just don’t repeat the same mistake.

]]> By: Samuel Goh Kim Eng http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40153 Samuel Goh Kim Eng Mon, 26 May 2008 15:30:11 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40153 Please don't count your marbles before they are in your pocket Otherwise you'll be embarassed when they are found in another packet You certainly don't want to be famous for covering up with the wrong blanket Or to try to hide your entire own face with a fanciful borrowed jacket (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 260508 http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com Mon. 26th May 2008. Please don’t count your marbles before they are in your pocket
Otherwise you’ll be embarassed when they are found in another packet
You certainly don’t want to be famous for covering up with the wrong blanket
Or to try to hide your entire own face with a fanciful borrowed jacket
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 260508
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Mon. 26th May 2008.

]]> By: matt http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40149 matt Mon, 26 May 2008 14:38:33 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40149 YB Now u know it was wrong to have rci on lingam, given a chance not only would he have won the case,he would have gone on to stake a claim on s'pore as well. YB
Now u know it was wrong to have rci on lingam, given a chance not only would he have won the case,he would have gone on to stake a claim on s’pore as well.

]]> By: Robin Goodfellow http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40145 Robin Goodfellow Mon, 26 May 2008 13:50:09 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40145 Tian Chua. What about Selat Ambalat? Look, first the Indons ram our navy ships... http://www.indonesia-ottawa.org/information/details.php?type=news_copy&id=790 Then our DPM @ Defense Minister apologises... http://www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/3/29/malaysia-admits-mistakes-by-offering-apology-over-ambalat/ But later Mr. C4 backtracks and says NO, HE DID NOT... http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=253993 At this rate we might a well give Selat Ambalat to the Indons as well! Najib, are you sleeping on the job dreaming of 'royal' commissions or what, ah? Enforce our sovereignty over Selat Ambalat or lose it like we lost Batu Puteh!!!!! For more on this... http://jester2oberon.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/sedia-gempur-ataupun-sudah-digempur/ Tian Chua. What about Selat Ambalat?

Look, first the Indons ram our navy ships…

http://www.indonesia-ottawa.org/information/details.php?type=news_copy&id=790

Then our DPM @ Defense Minister apologises…

http://www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/3/29/malaysia-admits-mistakes-by-offering-apology-over-ambalat/

But later Mr. C4 backtracks and says NO, HE DID NOT…

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=253993

At this rate we might a well give Selat Ambalat to the Indons as well! Najib, are you sleeping on the job dreaming of ‘royal’ commissions or what, ah? Enforce our sovereignty over Selat Ambalat or lose it like we lost Batu Puteh!!!!!

For more on this…

http://jester2oberon.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/sedia-gempur-ataupun-sudah-digempur/

]]> By: michael http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40134 michael Mon, 26 May 2008 12:51:53 +0000 http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/05/26/win-win-in-pedro-blanca/#comment-40134 Prior to the judgement, the government was confident that they will win because they have prepared a good arguement. Unfortunately, it was another disappointment for the people. From hindsight, is it worth the fight just for two coral islands? But, who initiated all these? What other options do they have besides claiming a "win-win" decision? It's time for us to seriously "blamestorm" and recommend to take action against those who are involved now? They should be held accountable and a precedent must be set. Otherwise, we will be wasting tons and tons of good money and yet achieve nothing in all our endeavour. Roght? Prior to the judgement, the government was confident that they will win because they have prepared a good arguement. Unfortunately, it was another disappointment for the people. From hindsight, is it worth the fight just for two coral islands? But, who initiated all these? What other options do they have besides claiming a “win-win” decision? It’s time for us to seriously “blamestorm” and recommend to take action against those who are involved now? They should be held accountable and a precedent must be set. Otherwise, we will be wasting tons and tons of good money and yet achieve nothing in all our endeavour. Roght?

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